tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22560219.post3642679261278829402..comments2023-12-07T20:31:28.197-05:00Comments on Islands of Joy: Interview with Julie Ann EgglestonSørina Higginshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10907200327850346539noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22560219.post-72746404797691703252010-05-22T20:25:41.091-05:002010-05-22T20:25:41.091-05:00Andrew, I completely agree. Metal and Classical ar...Andrew, I completely agree. Metal and Classical are closely related. I think this is because most of the metal guitarists (oddly enough) know their theory, and it shows in their music. However, I would say that metal is rather limited compared to classical. 99% of the time this music is in a minor key, (I know some guitarists have utilized the modes, but only the ones closely related to Aeolian) and it focuses on simple melodic ideas that often go along with some very virtuosic work on the guitar. Now I could listen to this music all day, but for me, Classical music is something I can’t live without. There really hasn’t been anything quite like it since the despair of the 20th century.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22560219.post-25179280659999575402010-05-12T13:14:47.344-05:002010-05-12T13:14:47.344-05:00i did not get a chance to read nick's intervie...i did not get a chance to read nick's interview yet. but i will at some point. and i totally agree. <br /><br />Nine Inch Nails (AKA Trent Reznor) has basically taken advantage of the computer. The easiest way to explain it is transforming noise into music. sounds like scraping metal to banging on random materials to over compressed drums (basically things that would some times even be painful to hear) and turns them into something that actually sounds good. incredible stuff if you can get into it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10523892372745571200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22560219.post-62968658182316610882010-05-12T12:57:12.375-05:002010-05-12T12:57:12.375-05:00Andrew: I think Nick would agree; did you read his...Andrew: I think Nick would agree; did you read his interview? And I agree that the most intelligent artists (in any field, not just music) reach into the past to discover vocabularies, forms, modalities, traditions, conventions, and then employ, modify, or rebel against those as they see fit. The result depends on their talent and hard work, but talent and hard work won't produce something "revolutionary" unless the creators knows what needs to be revolutionized. Yes? <br /><br /><br />Can you explain to me technically what Nine Inch Nails is doing that's new?Sørina Higginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10907200327850346539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22560219.post-75691407271196860572010-05-12T12:54:57.302-05:002010-05-12T12:54:57.302-05:00Michael: I think you could be right about the hist...Michael: I think you could be right about the historical progression of "tonal" or "diatonic" music -- but what about the other attempts that have been made to establish systems on other foundations? What about the 12-tone row composers? Or aleatoric music? Or music that uses other modes, semitones, etc, from other cultures? Paul Barnes' interview, which will be posted in the near future, deals with this a bit. I'll be interested to see what you think of his perspective.Sørina Higginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10907200327850346539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22560219.post-31144329239496763242010-05-12T10:20:38.268-05:002010-05-12T10:20:38.268-05:00Interesting thoughts and opinions. I know i may se...Interesting thoughts and opinions. I know i may seem like im generalizing but it seems to be common that anyone who is more experienced in music reaches to the past (more intricate) and the less experienced reach for the new the present what i like to call the auto tune era, haha. I do not consider my self to be an expert of music, but im quite good from an production stand point, in other words i play a lot of instruments poorly and play my computer well.<br /><br />The humorous thing about classical music, is the traits are still around, i don't know if Nick would still back me up or not (we used to talk about this a lot) but oddly enough Metal has a lot of classical backing. its humorous because it the last place and classical theorist would look. if you look past the screams and the blast beat drums and listen to some of the guitar solos it's pretty impressive. one song to check out would be "arpeggios from hell" - its kind of like taking classical music and throwing on distortion to make it seem "cool". another band that is really impressive, if you can get past the death lyrics, is trivium which is basically the definition of metal. <br /><br />An another side i still do agree there isn't much classical around. honestly there isn't much music around anymore. words put to a beat is talent and rhythm but it's not music. in my opinion if it doesn't have a melody then it cant be music. but then again there are artists such as Nine Inch Nails that are really just trying to do something that hasn't been done before. Still musical, still talented, just different. And yet theres another side the pop-side or the hannah montana side. the side that i still believe has little to no musical talent. pop music just recycles its self, if one thing proves to be successful then everyone else does it until its painful to hear. call me gereist but pop is just awful.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10523892372745571200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22560219.post-34588866226716937772010-05-12T10:02:12.620-05:002010-05-12T10:02:12.620-05:00I liked your metaphor about how musical education ...I liked your metaphor about how musical education should continue the conversation we have with music. There really is a clear and beautiful line from Bach to Mozart to Beethoven and beyond and it is a conversation worth hearing.<br />But it seems like pop music really has completed that particular conversation and distilled it to it's fundamental lesson 1-5-4-1, as it were.<br />To stretch the metaphor, what should we do if a particular conversation has been settled, everyone agrees, and now the creative heavyweights have gone home to rest and the conversation is now dominated by the insipid and limited?<br />This is approximately where I think music is today, I have not settled the question to my satisfaction.Mehitchcocknoreply@blogger.com